Re: Importing or buying a new or used LandCruiser?

[dtl]

Dzień dobry,

I am a Norwegian living in Poland. For some time I have been thinking to buy a LandCruiser, either a new 78 or an used 75/78/80. (One one hand, a new 78 is rather expensive, on the other hand, I like the idea of taking good care of the car from the "birth" rather than repairing 20+ years of neglect.) It looks to me that many LandCruisers for sale in Poland have actually been imported from other countries. Could anybody tell me about the process of buying a LandCruiser (either new or used) in another country and importing it to Poland? Is it easy? Any taxes? Are there any "specialised" dealers of new/used LandCruisers in Poland or abroad to recommend?

(Sorry for writing in English. I am trying to learn Polish, but it is difficult.)

Dziękuję,
dtl

[marzyniu]

Hi dtl.
We can tell you import procedure for us, polish people, don't know how this will be for foreigners living in Poland, do you own our id card (called dowód osobisty)? As one of the main documents you need to register car is proof of address.

[dtl]

Hi marzyniu,

I was told I can only get an identity card when I get a permanent residency permit (after 5 years). They also said I do not need an identity card for registering a car, for foreigners a passport is enough. Maybe I need a confirmation of my registered address from the city?

Could you tell me the procedure for Polish people?

Dziękuję,
dtl

[marzyniu]

ok, got something for you,it's lots of paper work so you might need some polish friend to help you to fill forms correctly or you can hire local agency to do all work for you.
this is for cars imported from European union countries if you import car from outside EU you need to add to costs 10% duty fee and VAT.
this is link to original website from where I copy text:
http://www.um.warszawa.pl/zalatw-sprawe ... -zagranicy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

hope that will help you
Enjoy reading

Step by step:
Download, print and fill out the request (forms are also available at the Office).
To request attach the required documents. Documents for application shall be submitted in the original.
Go to the District Office with jurisdiction over the place of residence, submit an application along with attachments and make payments. Bring your identity document. If the vehicle is co-owned - it requires the presence of all co-owners or power of attorney granted by them. NOTE: Housing must be confirmed by checking for permanent or temporary residence. Another way of confirming residence is individual and will be considered when filing.
You will receive a decision on the temporary registration of the vehicle with temporary permit valid for a period not exceeding 30 days, license plates and inspection sticker, if required.
Insure the vehicle on the registration date.
Receive the decision to register the vehicle with proof of registration before the expiry of the temporary permit. Information about ready to receive a registration you get the relevant office or on the website www.pojazd.pwpw.pl. Upon receipt of the registration so temporary permits and introduce a valid OC insurance policy.
Required documents:
The request of the owner of a vehicle registration.
Proof of vehicle ownership (proof of ownership is in particular one of the following documents: a VAT invoice confirming the purchase of the vehicle, the sales contract, the contract exchange, donation contract, a contract for life, final court decision determinative of the right of ownership).
Registration document of the vehicle.
Proof of payment of the recycling fee in the amount of 500 zł (including defining the characteristics of the vehicle identification: VIN, body, chassis) made ​​by introducing vehicle - applies to vehicles of category M1 or N1 and category L2e three-wheeled mopeds. Not applicable to vehicles brought into the country after January 1, 2016. Introduction to the country following the date of approval of the vehicle marketed on the territory of the country - in the case of imports of invoice or importation of a vehicle on the territory of the country - in the case of intra-Community acquisition.
Plates.
Proof of import customs clearance, if the vehicle was imported from the territory of non-member states of the European Union.
A document confirming payment of excise duty in the country or a document confirming the absence of an obligation or a certificate stating the exemption from excise duty if the vehicle was imported from the territory of the Member State of the European Union (applies: a passenger car, a vehicle of "car other" subgenus "quad" - the category of approval L7e or subgenus "lightweight quad" - category L6e approval).
The certificate of roadworthiness test positive result (if required).
A document confirming the power of attorney, if the attorney is present (model sample power of attorney).
Translations into Polish, documents in a foreign language, made by a sworn translator or by the competent consul.
In the case where the vehicle was imported by an operator established in trading vehicle ii is subject to resale before the first registration on Polish territory, the documents may be replaced:
Import customs clearance document - can be replaced with a note on the proof of ownership of the vehicle containing the date, document number and the name of the body which has customs clearance;
Proof of payment of the recycling fee - may be replaced by a declaration introducing compulsory vehicle liability to provide vehicle collection networks, or an invoice containing this statement. For introducing the vehicle is considered to be any entity that issues the card of the vehicle.

If the vehicle owner is a natural person is required identity document: ID card or other document with a photo ID (for information).
If the vehicle owner is a legal person requires a current copy of the National Court Register (for inspection).
Issues related vehicle registration on behalf of the legal person may do the only person authorized to do so. In the case where the vehicle owner is a foreigner residing in Poland, the foreign company or foreign: cultural center, foundations, press correspondents are required:

alien identity document: passport and one of the following documents with the confirmation of a temporary check-foreigner:
-visa the Schengen or national visa,
Greeting Card residence permit issued in connection with the granting of a residence permit for temporary residence,
attesting the degree of registering the residence of a citizen of the European Union
- residence card of a family member of a citizen of the European Union,
-document confirming the right of permanent residence of a Union citizen,
Greeting Card residence of a family member of a Union citizen,
Greeting Card residence permit issued in connection with the granting of a residence permit for permanent residence permit for long-term resident of the European Union , refugee status, subsidiary protection or tolerated stay permit.
a certificate of entry in the register of foreign companies issued by the Minister of Economy or a current copy of the National Court Register for a branch of a foreign entrepreneur (for inspection) - a foreign firm. Cultural centers, foundations, press correspondents - international agreements, certificates of embassies, accreditations (for inspection).

Fees can be made ​​by bank transfer or by transfer to the bank account of the Office m. St. Warsaw for the relevant quarter, or directly in the cash office district, according to local properties for załatwianej case. 17,00 zł - stamp duty for filing a document confirming power of attorney.
Payment of stamp duty can be made ​​by bank transfer or by transfer to the bank account of the City Warsaw for the proper district or district directly at the box office, according to local properties for załatwianej case.The title of payment should enter the make, model and registration number or, in the absence of the registration number - the VIN number.

[dtl]

Thanks a lot! This is exactly what I have been looking for!

Just a couple of additional questions:

-Somewhere on the Internet there was mentioned about an excise duty of 18.6%. If I understood correctly, this only has to be paid in case the car is from a non-EU country? (Is this the 10% you are mentioning?)

-I do not have to do anything at the border to Poland. All paper work can be done where I live in Poland?

Thanks again,
dtl

[marzyniu]

hi.
that excise duty of 18.6% is applying for cars which engine is over 2000cm3 under that you paying 3.1% but that excise duty (called akcyza) applying for cars from EU and from rest of the world,other than that for cars from non-EU countries unfortunately having additional 10% of import duty(cło) and VAT (23% in poland),You might pay VAT in any of EU country,is not necessary to pay in Poland,I guess you might need proof to show that you paid such a VAT.

yes,all paper work you need to do in Poland,unless you decide to pay VAT in different country.

even I learn something

[dtl]

OK, so unfortunately I have to add 18.6% to the price (I can't imagine there is a LandCruiser with engine below 2000cm3)...

I think the car has to be older than 6 months or driven more than 6000km to avoid paying vat in Poland.

Thanks a lot again. Good to hear you are also getting something out of this!
dtl

[marzyniu]

You have to pay VAT if importing from non-EU countries, from EU you not paying VAT.

[dtl]

OK, thanks again!

[marzyniu]

No problem, I hope you find some nice model.

[MaxLux]

Just from 1.01.2016 they cancelled 500pln fee (opłata środowiskowa) some little bonus

BTW: Are you sure you need 78 ? I would rather suggest you to buy 120 or 150 - also realible, easier to buy and repair ...